From: ARMESTO PEREZ NESTOR <nestor.armesto@usc.es>
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2022 9:41 AM
To: Heidi Rzehak <heidi.rzehak@itp.uni-tuebingen.de>; dis2022_wg4@igfae.usc.es; dis2022_wg3@igfae.usc.es
Subject: [DIS2022_wg4] Re: [DIS2022_wg3] Re: Re: DIS 2022: Combined session of WG 3 and WG 4?

Dear Nestor, dear Maria, dear all,

I have been trying to schedule the WG3 top talks so that they are at 
least in the schedule for now. However, in contrast to in the pure WG3 
session, I could not choose among the accepted abstracts but it rather 
seemed that I had to implement the whole contribution again. I am 
pretty sure that this is not the right way, however, I am not sure 
whether I just did something wrong and did not find the right button 
or whether there is still something missing that would allow the 
inclusion of the abstracts.

If anyone knows how to solve the issue, please let me know.

Best wishes,

Heidi


Quoting ARMESTO PEREZ NESTOR <nestor.armesto@usc.es>:

> Dear all,
>
> I have created a new session WG3+WG4, with a block on Wednesday 
> afternnon, from 15.00 to 19.00 with a coffee break in the middle. I 
> hope to have given the right permissions to you all.
>
> Best regards
>
> Nestor
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> Néstor Armesto
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> De: Maria Vittoria Garzelli <garzelli@mail.desy.de>
> Enviado: sábado, 16 de abril de 2022 11:49
> Para: Heidi Rzehak <heidi.rzehak@itp.uni-tuebingen.de>; ARMESTO 
> PEREZ NESTOR <nestor.armesto@usc.es>
> CC: Evdokimov, Olga <evdolga@uic.edu>; dis2022_wg4@igfae.usc.es 
> <dis2022_wg4@igfae.usc.es>; heather.gray@berkeley.edu 
> <heather.gray@berkeley.edu>; amarti41@nd.edu <amarti41@nd.edu>
> Asunto: Re: [DIS2022_wg4] Re: DIS 2022: Combined session of WG 3 and WG 4?
>
> Ok. Summarizing: it is intention to organize a joint parallel session of
> WG3+WG4 on wednesday afternoon for "Top-quark physics: new theoretical
> and experimental results".
>
> The permissions are needed to both the WG3 and WG4 to edit the calendar.
> Nestor, can you please allocate the session and the correct permissions
> in indico, so that all conveners of WG3 and WG4 can edit and fill it ?
> The session will start at the beginning of the afternoon and probably
> include nine talks. It will be followed by stanadard parallel sessions.
>
> It will also be perhaps a good idea to have a large room, since this
> this is joint. Any suggestion in this respect ?
>
>
>
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2022, Heidi Rzehak wrote:
>
>> Hi Maria,
>>
>> I would suggest to start with the joint session. Finishing earlier is not
>> such a big problem I think.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Heidi
>>
>> Quoting Maria Vittoria Garzelli <garzelli@mail.desy.de>:
>>
>>> Yes, proceeding like this looks reasonable.
>>> But Nestor can probably easily give to both WG3 and WG4 the permission
>>> on the full session.
>>>
>>> One question is: at what time of wednesday afternoon to start ?
>>> The point is that the joint session does not use the whole afternoon.
>>> So, either one starts with other talks (e.g.  continuation of the
>>> morning sessions), and then start the top WG3+WG4 session, or one starts
>>> with the top WG3+WG4 joint session, and then add other talks later.
>>>
>>> Please, express your point of view/preference on this.
>>>
>>> If agreement is reached, then one can ufficialize the WG3+WG4 joint
>>> session with Nestor and ask him to upgrade the indico permission
>>> of both WG3 and WG4 on it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022, Heidi Rzehak wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Olga, dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I don't see a possibility to implement a joint session. Does anyone know?
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, we need to ask Nestor. If we had the session, it probably is
>>>> the simplest, if WG3 implements the WG 3 talks and WG4 the WG4 talks. If
>>>> we want to move them around, I would assume that we can still do that
>>>> afterwards without big problems.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Heidi
>>>>
>>>> I guess we first need
>>>> Quoting "Evdokimov, Olga" <evdolga@uic.edu>:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Maria, All,
>>>>>
>>>>> To me Thursday or Wednesday  are both good options; I have no objections
>>>>> Wednesday; Maria please feel free to implement it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Heidi, do you (or anyone on your team) has a "super user" privileges on
>>>>> Indico? I don't see the WG3 talks as available for us to schedule; also,
>>>>> I don't know how to make the joint session block. Is this something you
>>>>> know how to do, or should I contact Nestor for help?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Olga
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Maria Vittoria Garzelli <garzelli@mail.desy.de>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 5:23 AM
>>>>> To: Heidi Rzehak <heidi.rzehak@itp.uni-tuebingen.de>
>>>>> Cc: dis2022_wg4@igfae.usc.es; heather.gray@berkeley.edu; amarti41@nd.edu
>>>>> Subject: [DIS2022_wg4] Re: DIS 2022: Combined session of WG 3 and WG 4?
>>>>>
>>>>> To me it looka great.
>>>>> The Wg4 coconveners Olga and Xuan
>>>>> should just confirm (or not)
>>>>> if it is fine for them as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022, Heidi Rzehak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Maria,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so far, speakers only contacted us,
>>>>>> since they were worried about not
>>>>>> finding their talks but we have not
>>>>>> yet contacted anybody.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So we could still shift the early
>>>>>> Wednesday afternoon session. We would have no parallel session aside
>>>>>> the joint session in the first top session but in the second so that
>>>>>> the plan would be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wednesday 15:00 - 16:40 WG 3 + 4:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Latest top quark measurements with the CMS detector (CMS speaker,
>>>>>> accepted by WG4)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Measurement of pair and single
>>>>>> top-quark production cross-sections
>>>>>> with ATLAS at LHC (ATLAS speaker,
>>>>>> accepted by WG3)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) Other ATLAS talk on rare processes etc. (ATLAS speaker, accepted by
>>>>>> WG3)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) Evidence for top quark production
>>>>>> in AA collisions with CMS experiment
>>>>>> (CMS speaker, accepted by WG4)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5) Non-factorisable QCD corrections to t-channel single-top production
>>>>>> at NNLO (WG 3)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wednesday 17:10 - 18:50 WG 3+ 4:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6) Higher-order corrections in 𝑡𝑞𝛾
>>>>>> production (also Kidonakis) (WG 3)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7) Top-antitop cross-sections at high energies (Kidonakig from US,
>>>>>> accepted by WG4)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 8) Projected transverse momentum
>>>>>> resummation in the top-antitop pair
>>>>>> production at the LHC (W. Ju, accepted `by WG 4)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 9) Impact of top quark pair production on CTEQ PDFs (Guzzi from US,
>>>>>> accepted by WG4)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We certainly would need to have a
>>>>>> parallel session parallel two the
>>>>>> second part otherwise we do not fit
>>>>>> our talks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finetuning issues that one could still think about: Ideally, the WG 3
>>>>>> would be in the first session, since we do not have a parallel then -
>>>>>> and at the moment we have Kidonakis talking twice directly after each
>>>>>> other. And we separated the session into first experimental and then
>>>>>> theory talks.
>>>>>> Maybe we could also mix both type of
>>>>>> talks, if we do not have the US issue anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But most important, can we fix the
>>>>>> slots now? (Moving the talks within
>>>>>> the two sessions should be less
>>>>>> problematic.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heidi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting Maria Vittoria Garzelli
>>>>>> <garzelli@mail.desy.de>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The point is that this WG4+WG3
>>>>>>> session would better fit wednesday
>>>>>>> afternoon (with no issue for
>>>>>>> speakers from US), where the
>>>>>>> "additional" room does not look as
>>>>>>> used by anybody according to the
>>>>>>> program.
>>>>>>> In that case, one could use the
>>>>>>> "additional" room to book there some of the WG3 and WG4 additional
>>>>>>> talks and use e.g. the WG4 room for the
>>>>>>> WG3+WG4 top quark session.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you already contacted all your
>>>>>>> WG3 speakers of wednesday, or is the
>>>>>>> previous solution still feasible ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it is not feasible, and one has
>>>>>>> really to adapt to Thursday morning,
>>>>>>> than there is not so much choice. In that case one could do the
>>>>>>> WG3+WG4 in WG4 room (supposing it is larger than the WG3 one, but
>>>>>>> this has to be understood with Nestor, otherwise one goes to the WG3
>>>>>>> room).
>>>>>>> Additionally WG4 might make a
>>>>>>> parallel of some other talks in the
>>>>>>> WG3 room or in the additional room,
>>>>>>> followed by a parallel of some other talks by WG3 in the WG3 room.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The order of talks should stay as
>>>>>>> already discussed.
>>>>>>> (exp. mixed, theory talks by WG3,
>>>>>>> theory talks by WG4).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022, Heidi Rzehak
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Maria,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just to be sure that I understand
>>>>>>>> your suggestion correctly: We plan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thursday morning: 9:00 - 11:00
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> session WG 3+4  (top) and session
>>>>>>>> WG 4 (other topic)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thursday morning: 11:30 -13:30
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> session WG (3+)4  (top continued)
>>>>>>>> and  session WG 3 (other topic)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would that fit to what you
>>>>>>>> suggested? In this case, if you
>>>>>>>> like I can ask Nestor about the
>>>>>>>> rooms, which should however be no
>>>>>>>> too big problem, since we are not
>>>>>>>> using more rooms than when we were
>>>>>>>> just doing our own sessions.
>>>>>>>> Certainly it is better to ask so
>>>>>>>> that the top session can continue
>>>>>>>> in the same room.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heidi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quoting Maria Vittoria Garzelli
>>>>>>>> <garzelli@mail.desy.de>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems that using another,
>>>>>>>>> dedicated, room for all this top
>>>>>>>>> stuff would still be best
>>>>>>>>> solution. Maybe you can ask Nestor ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In case this is not feasible, the
>>>>>>>>> easiest is the following:
>>>>>>>>> name all top quarks as "WG3+WG4
>>>>>>>>> top quark session", indipendently
>>>>>>>>> of how many talks are from WG3 and how many from WG4.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The morning part, do in WG3 room.
>>>>>>>>> For the experimental talks all the
>>>>>>>>> WG3+WG4 conveners can probably be
>>>>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>>>> For the following theory talks of
>>>>>>>>> WG3 all WG3 conveners and one WG4
>>>>>>>>> convener, because, it might be
>>>>>>>>> that WG4 in the meanwhile has to
>>>>>>>>> use its own room for other talks
>>>>>>>>> (not top-quark related) in
>>>>>>>>> parallel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The afternoon part, with the
>>>>>>>>> theory talks of WG4 do in WG4
>>>>>>>>> room. All WG4 conveners present
>>>>>>>>> and one WG3 convener, because it
>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> be that WG3 wants to do in
>>>>>>>>> parallel in its own room other
>>>>>>>>> talks
>>>>>>>>> not top-quark related as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This way all top quark stuff will
>>>>>>>>> look like a joint session. There
>>>>>>>>> should always be some WG3 and some
>>>>>>>>> WG4 conveners for each
>>>>>>>>> talk, so the session is
>>>>>>>>> representative of both groups,
>>>>>>>>> even if
>>>>>>>>> it might be that, in parallel, one has to run other WG3 and WG4
>>>>>>>>> sessions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does this sound as an
>>>>>>>>> implementable reasonable enough
>>>>>>>>> solution ?
>>>>>>>>> (Alternatively Nestor should
>>>>>>>>> provide a dedicated room.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022, Heidi Rzehak
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Maria,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sorry for the confusion with the
>>>>>>>>>> Thursday afternoon session -
>>>>>>>>>> there is of course no afternoon
>>>>>>>>>> session. I definitely meant the
>>>>>>>>>> session from 9:00 to 11:00, which would fit six talks. Since in
>>>>>>>>>> the late session there is already the joint WG1+WG6 and parallel
>>>>>>>>>> WG1 session, I think we will have a room problem if we try that
>>>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But we could of course start in
>>>>>>>>>> the first session as you suggest
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Latest top quark measurements
>>>>>>>>>>> with the CMS detector (CMS
>>>>>>>>>>> speaker, accepted by WG4)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Measurement of pair and single
>>>>>>>>>>> top-quark production
>>>>>>>>>>> cross-sections with ATLAS at LHC (ATLAS speaker, accepted by WG3)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Other ATLAS talk on rare
>>>>>>>>>>> processes etc. (ATLAS speaker,
>>>>>>>>>>> accepted by WG3)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Evidence for top quark
>>>>>>>>>>> production in AA collisions with CMS experiment (CMS speaker,
>>>>>>>>>>> accepted by WG4)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Non-factorisable QCD corrections
>>>>>>>>>> to t-channel single-top
>>>>>>>>>> production at NNLO (WG 3)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Higher-order corrections in
>>>>>>>>>> 𝑡𝑞𝛾 production (also
>>>>>>>>>> Kidonakis) (WG 3)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And move these to a next WG4
>>>>>>>>>> session
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Top-antitop cross-sections at
>>>>>>>>>>> high energies (Kidonakig from
>>>>>>>>>>> US, accepted by WG4)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Projected transverse momentum
>>>>>>>>>>> resummation in the top-antitop
>>>>>>>>>>> pair production at the LHC (W.
>>>>>>>>>>> Ju, accepted `by WG 4)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Impact of top quark pair
>>>>>>>>>>> production on CTEQ PDFs (Guzzi
>>>>>>>>>>> from US, accepted by WG4)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it might be a bit tough for
>>>>>>>>>> Nikolaos Kidonakis but given the
>>>>>>>>>> constraints I am afraid that it
>>>>>>>>>> might be the best solution for
>>>>>>>>>> the moment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Heidi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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