Dear all I did not give my opinion concerning the request of Salvatore to have two talks on the CMS RPC trigger topics  since I am still a part of CMS's RPC community. Now that the decision is taken I would really suggest to at least upgrade one if the two posters to a talk. The importance of using the excellent timing of RPC to detect Long Lived Particle as well as Heavy Charged Scalar Particle will emphasize the important role of RPC in this kind of exciting searches. It will also emphasize the role (M)RPC  could play in future colliders where much more expensive and complex detectors like LGAD are proposed. Best regards Imad > Le 23 juil. 2024 à 10:25, santonic <santonic(a)roma2.infn.it&gt; a écrit : > > Dear all, > > the proposal of an ATLAS-CMS review talk is in itself an exciting idea > that might contribute to improve the scientific quality of our > conference. > It is also an ambitious proposal which requires to to solve the > following > problems. > - To find a speaker of high scientific thickness who should have the > time > to study with sufficient detail the experiment he is not expert about > - His talk should be prepared in advance and approved by both > experiments > - He should have a free time slot for the second September week (Silvia > for example could not accept our invitation because she was already > engaged) > > My worry is that these conditions are difficult to fulfill one and half > months before the conference. My proposal therefore is to postpone this > ambitious talk to the next RPC conference rather that to take the risk > of spoiling this excellent idea only because we have not time to prepare > it. > > Best regards > > Rinaldo > > > > > > Il 2024-07-22 18:45 iaselli ha scritto: > > Hallo everybody, > > Yes please restrict the list to IAC and IOC. > > I tend to agree with Stefano. > > CMS has already a talk contribution number 15: > > > > Use and application of the CMS RPC in future experiments > > > > Where the new trigger concept using the RPC time could perhaps be > > allocated. > > > > I find more difficult the option to open a slot for a combined ATLAS > > -CMS review. Also I think this is somehow not fully appropriate for > > our case (workshop), where the talks are more focused on a particular > > development. > > So my opinion is to stay with our original proposition. > > Ciao Pino > > > >> Il giorno 22 lug 2024, alle ore 16:55, Gabriella Pugliese > >> <gabriella.pugliese(a)ba.infn.it&gt; ha scritto: > >> > >> Excellent idea > >> Cheers, Gabriella > >> > >> Il giorno 22 lug 2024, alle ore 14:04, Michael Tytgat > >> <michael.tytgat(a)cern.ch&gt; ha scritto: > >> > >> Dear all, > >> > >> I would support this suggestion for an ATLAS-CMS review talk (and > >> then to keep the two posters). In that case, we should proceed > >> really asap, since such a talk will require cross-coordination > >> between the two large collaborations which makes the process of > >> defining the content and finding a common speaker somewhat slower > >> than usual. > >> > >> All the best, > >> > >> Michael > >> > >> Op 22-Jul-24 om 10:38 AM schreef RPC2024: > >> > >> thank you very much, Stefano, > >> > >> This goes alone my line of thinking, too. Let's wait for feedback > >> from the others. > >> > >> D. > >> > >> On 22/07/2024 08:19, stefano bianco wrote: > >> [Salvatore Buontempo offlisted] > >> > >> Dear Diego, thanks for your message. > >> > >> 1) I recommend to keep the email exchanges on these matters private > >> within IAC IOC LOC, this is why > >> I offlisted my CMS colleague and old-time friend Salvatore. > >> 2) I suggest we keep the point and the two posters are not > >> reconverted to talks. CMS has already a > >> tremendous visibility in RPC2024. > >> 3) As a subordinate alternative to 2), I suggest to keep the two > >> CMS > >> posters as such, but opening one slot for > >> a minireview talk (same time as for a regular talk) for one > >> combined > >> ATLAS-CMS review on prospects on RPC muon triggers. > >> The minireview is usual practice in the LHC experiment, the CMS and > >> ATLAS conference committees will work together > >> and propose one speaker. > >> > >> Very best, > >> > >> stefano > >> > >> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 at 18:24, RPC2024 <rpc2024(a)igfae.usc.es&gt; wrote: > >> > >> Dear IOC, IAC, LOC, > >> > >> We have a request by Salvatore Buontempo, regarding the two > >> contributions on trigger by CMS that were tagged as posters. > >> While we will need to move on with the main program assuming that > >> these two contributions are posters, we could consider > >> adding a last-minute one as a talk, if agreed among us, perhaps. My > >> though was that such a talk should reflect the status > >> and prospects of the CMS trigger. > >> > >> all the best > >> > >> Diego > >> > >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > >> Subject: Some CMS RPC talks converted to posters > >> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 11:01:55 +0000 > >> From: Salvatore Buontempo <Salvatore.Buontempo(a)cern.ch&gt; > >> To: rpc2024(a)igfae.usc.es <rpc2024(a)igfae.usc.es&gt; > >> CC: Borislav Pavlov <Borislav.Pavlov(a)cern.ch&gt; > >> > >> Dear Diego, > >> > >> as from the title I contact you now also concerning some > >> talk-to-poster conversion proposal we just received yesterday > >> evening by our colleague Boris Pavlov, editorial board reference > >> person. > >> > >> Here the list of abstracts sent for a talk, but apparently accepted > >> only as a poster: > >> > >> "Evaluation of the Link System using CMS RPC chamber" > >> "Radiation mitigation on the RPC Link System" > >> "CMS RPC L1 Trigger primitives in HL-LHC" > >> "Novel ideas for CMS L1 trigger using RPC timing" > >> "CMS RPC Background studies in LHC Run 2 and Run 3" > >> > >> We understand that there could be time slot availability issues in > >> conference sessions driving such a decision. > >> > >> Ok for us to stay with poster on the arguments of Link System and > >> background (talks #1. #2, #5 in the list here above). > >> > >> On the other hand we consider quite relevant to secure at least a > >> couple of talks concerning future trigger, being that subject one > >> of the most relevant motivations for RPC use in future HL-LHC > >> detectors. > >> > >> So, we kindly ask you if possible to secure at least 2 additional > >> time slots as talks for such a subject for talks #3 and #4 in the > >> above list. > >> > >> Thank you for your support and best regards, > >> > >> Salvatore > >> > >> (on behalf of CMS RPC Collaboration) > >> > >> PS as promised I confirm our interest about double chambers in the > >> campus and I am coming back to you by today with list of names and > >> check if anybody available to share the room with Leonardo > >> > >> _______________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Salvatore Buontempo <Salvatore.Buontempo(a)cern.ch&gt; > >> > >> INFN (Istituto Nazionale di Fisica Nucleare) - Sezione di Napoli > >> > >> Complesso Univers. 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